----- Original Message -----From: AThompsonSent: Friday, December 09, 2005 6:56 AMSubject: RE: [norse_course] Hrafnkell 441-459Here’s the next instalment of Hrafnkel’s Saga. The next instalment will be on 6 Jan 2006 as I will be taking a short break over Christmas.
Kveðja
Alan
Þorgeirr segir: 'Sé ek nú, hversu horfir, frændi, at þér 460
mislíkar, en ek má þat eigi vita, ok munum vit fylgja þessum
mönnum, hversu sem ferr, ef þú vilt.'
Thorgeirr says"See I now how how things have turned (around) kinsman, that youare displeased, and I cannot bear this we will aid these men as you wish to if you want
I see now how things are changed kinsman that you
are not pleased and I do not want this, we will aid these men if you wish
Þorkell mælti: 'Þessa eins bið ek, at mér bykkir betr, at veitt
sé.'
Thorkell spoke " this is all (that) I ask, that to me (seems?) better were grantedThorkell replies "That is all I wish, and it were better to be granted"
'Til hvers þykkjask þessir menn fœrir', segir Þorgeirr, 'svá 465
at framkvæmð verði at þeira máli?'
to what do these men think they can do " says Thorgeirr to (the ) progress worth of their case/causeWhat do these men think they can do to help their case
'Svá er sem ek sagða í dag, at styrk þurfum vit af höfðingjum,
en málaflutning á ek undir mér.'
It is thus I said on a day support needed of Chieftains but pleading of (the) suitdo I (?undertake) to me
It is as I have said, support is needed of the Chieftains but the pleading of the suit
I shall do for myself (is this Sam - it does not say so)
Þorgeirr kvað honum þá gott at duga, -- 'ok er nú þat til, at
búa mál til sem réttligast. En mér þykkir sem Þorkell vili, at 470
þit vitið hans, áðr dómar fara útThorgeirr declares to him (dat?) that good to be useful and that now to make a case
to as faultless (as possible) "But I think Thorkell would like you to visit him before the court convenes/gets up
Thorgeirr declares to him that this is useful and a case is to be made faultless. "And I think Thorkell would like you to see him before the court (Sits/.convenes)
Munu þit þá hafa annathvárt fyrir ykkart þrá, nökkura huggan eða læging enn meir
en áðr ok hrelling ok skapraun. Gangið nú heim ok verið kátir,It must be you two then obtain either one of two, whether because of your obstinacy, a certain consolation or disgrace further, and further afflicion and vexation Go you now home and be cheerful
It must happen thet you two will obtain one of two things because of your obstinacy either a cerain consolation or further disgrace, and further affliction and trouble. Mow, go home and be cheerful
af því at þess munu þit við þurfa, ef þit skuluð deila við
Hrafnkel, at þit berið ykkr vel upp um hríð, en segi þit engum 475
manni, at vit höfum liðveizlu heitit ykkr.'
because this must be to you with need, if you (Two) shall dispute with Hrafmkel, so carry yourselves well up (? at this time) and saying to no man that we have support given to youthis is necessary for you if you two insist on a dispute with Hrafnkell; so carry yourselves upright at this time (?) and tell no one that we have given you support
Þá gengu þeir heim til búðar sinnar, váru þá ölteitir. Menn
undruðusk þetta allir, hví þeir hefði svá skjótt skapskipti tekit,
þar sem þeir váru óglaðir, er þeir fóru heiman.
Then go they home to their booth, both in good spirirs, (their) men wondered at this greatlyBecause they had been (? past and Subj) such a short change of mood taken.
thus/ where they were so unhappy as they went from home (frankly - got stuck there)
Then they went home to their dwelling/booth both is such good spirits that people wondered at this sudden change of mood, they had been so unhappy/dispirited when they had left home
I have done my best with this Alan I wish I knew if there is hope for me honestly I actually (extremely) like this study and I have been going through the notes you so kindly provide,I know you say you are not an expert, but - come on - by comparison - must beKveðjaPatriciaPS I do not Celebrate Christmas as such I celebrate Yule doing what I do best readingand studying (don't ask)
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