Re: [Bulk] [tied] Ancient Greek ψεύδω/ψεύδομαι and Alba

Beekes links the Greek etymon in question with Arm. sut  (a-stem) [adj.] 'false', [subst.] 'lie' (both with PIE *-d-, not *-t-). We have also some forms in Slavic (like Pol. szydzić "to sneer, to scoff", szyderstwo "mockery") which could suggest PIE *kWseud- even if some details of the phonological development are unclear in this case: Pol. szyd- < PSlav. *šid- < *xjūd- < *kWsyud- (Winter's rule) rather than *kWsud-.

On the other hand, we have Russian šut, šutka "a joke" with unclear etymology (see Vasmer for details). Perhaps it could be a cognate of the cited Albanian forms rather than the Greek ones (if they are heredited at all). In this case šut- < *xeut- < *kWseut-

Note also Greek psythos ~ psydos, cf. Beekes. If Indo-European at all, the root may have had another variant *kWseudH- here.

 

Hello, I was looking at those words:

ψεύδω/ψεύδομαι "I lie/deceive" and albanian hutoje/hutlojë/hutrrohem "I confuse/deceive"

I was thinking that both forms could derive from the same root resembling something like *kseud- with suffixes like -ro and -lo in albanian leading to *kseud-ro and *kseud-lo. A word with unknown etymology that is similar is Sicilian dialect scutra meaning "bad luck".

The only PIE root that looks like that is from the Pokorny lexicon and is *kseud and means "to grind, stamp to little pieces" which is semantically quite far

The proposed etymologies for the albanian word are the following:

hutoj derives from hutë (owl) with figurative sense

hutlojë from older *hutël based on hutoj

there is also the word hut which is believed to derive from  PIE *ua (empty)