Re: Greek _kithara_ and German _Gitter_

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...> wrote:
>
> Hallo Indo-Europeanists!
>
> Could these be cognate (from a PIE *ghidh-ro-)?
>
> I know that a harp is not the same as a grid, but they *are*
> somewhat similar - both have a frame, one has strings and the
> other has bars. The Duden Herkunftswörterbuch gives a different
> etymology for _Gitter_, but that one looks contrived to me.
>
> --

It's hard to separate it from Gatter = gate ; see Pok. ghedh-:

ahd. gataro, nhd. Gatter (umgelautet mhd. geter, nhd. Gitter), aschwed. gadder, mnd. gaddere `Gitter';

and maybe also:

tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/24461

> word, "lit. [...] gardìs f. `Gatter, Gitter'", meaning open fencework as in
> railings or a trellis

So, I'd say they're not related. I've already talked about kítharis \ kithára: = lyre G; kañkle:s Lith; >> kantele Fn;