Re: fortis , f- >>

From: Bhrihskwobhloukstroy
Message: 70526
Date: 2012-12-08

Where's "Oscan-Umbrian /v/"?

2012/12/8, stlatos <sean@...>:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy
> <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...> wrote:
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>> For instance (Oscan-Umbrian loanwords)?
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>> 2012/12/8, stlatos <sean@...>:
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>> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@> wrote:
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>> >> A doublet like <bortitz>/<portitz> from Lat. <fortis> in this view
>> >> requires no intermediate language, merely an earlier and later stage
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>> >> borrowing the same word.
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>> > I don't think 2 stages of borrowing are needed. If Bq. had no f,
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>> > either f > p or f > v ( > b later) would be equally good substitutions.
>> > This is sim. to how L. borrowed Osc-U. words with -v- as either -b- or
>> > -f-
>> > (before w > v in L.).
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> Sihler mentioned ro:bus : ru:fus, *londH- > lumbi: = loins (and some
> related words). He compared it to opt. OE borrowings of v (vannus > fann,
> v- > berbena, etc.). Either shows the reality of what I proposed.
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