Re: DOBUR / DOBHAR < =====> DIBAR / DABRA-H

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Tavi" <oalexandre@...> wrote:

>
> > Just to make it more interesting to you, I will introduce you to yet
> > another C. A. term from a secondary root
> > dbr (2): "dibar / dabra-h" which means "water channel."
> >
> > http://www.theegyptianchronicles.com/LINKS/DBR2.html
> > Now compare it with the Old Irish "dobur" & modern Gaelic as
> > "dobhar" below:
>
> Yes, this is Celtic *dubro- ‘water’ (which Matasovic
> conflates with *dubo- ‘dark’), although the proposed link
> to other IE words meaning ‘deep’ is also dubious IMHO
> (see Delamarre’s Dictionnaire de la langue gauloise for
> more details).
>
> I’d relate this and the Arabic word to the hydronym Tiber,
> likely of Etruscan origin (thepri-, thefri- thifari-
> ‘channel’) and to Pre-Greek *dabur in laburínthos.
> This is parallel to Hurrian tem-ari ‘irrigation ditch;
> channel’, which Starostin links to NEC *ta:mh\i ‘vein;
> pipe, kennel’. There’s also Turkic *da.mor ‘vein,
> artery; root’.
>

While this is a Wanderwort 'channel' which reached Arabic (which is no wonder, given the high skills of Arabians in irrigation techniques), I don't think the Celtic word (Delamarre also quotes the Illyrian gloss dúbris 'sea') belongs here.