From: dgkilday57
Message: 68596
Date: 2012-02-22
>I propose *h4tengH- as the PIE root, which covers both Iranian T- and the uncolored Germanic *e. It also suggests an improved way of looking at root-restrictions. De Vaan suggested nasal blocking to explain *tengH- and *tweng(^)H-, discarding *kneigWH- as probably "European" in Kuiper's sense, not PIE. I think *kneigWH- is good PIE, and the real rule is that both the tenuis and the media aspirata in these roots must be clustered.
> W dniu 2012-02-09 22:59, dgkilday57 pisze:
>
> > Also, how does Olsen account for initial unvoiced aspirates in InIr?
> > E.g. Sanskrit <phe'na-> 'foam', Ossetic <fink>; Skt. <kumbha'-> 'peak',
> > Avestan <xumba->; Av. <Tanjayenti> 'they draw', <Tanvar-> 'bow'
> > (apparently the only exx. with *tH-, Bartholomae reconstructed as
> > *tHan,gW-).
>
> The Copenhagen dialect of PIE has voiceless aspirates at least as
> positional allophones of tenues, and possibly as marginal phonemes. They
> should be distinguished, though, from other "special effects" involving
> laryngeals, such as the IIr. contractions of a stop with a _following_
> *h2. Olsen's 1988 monograph is devoted to the variants of *-tlom and the
> factors conditioning them, not to aspirated voiceless stops in general.
>
> I'll write more about the IIr. words later. Let me only remark now that,
> as for 'draw', even LIV has *tHengH- (a root aorist), the only entry
> there with initial *tH. The root is attested in several branches, though
> the only evidence for the initial aspirate is Iranian. *h2 is ruled out
> by Germanic cognates with uncoloured *e in the root syllable.