Re: Octha or Ohta?

From: Torsten
Message: 68516
Date: 2012-02-09

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <stlatos@...> wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Torsten" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <stlatos@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Torsten" <tgpedersen@> wrote:

> > > > I am sure y. cn. als. expl. ths.:
> > > >
> > > > Orël & Stol'bova
> > > > HSED 2066 *q.of- "hoof"
> > > > Sem *h_upp "hoof": Arab h_uff-, Hss h_ef, Mhr h_ef, Shh h_af.
> > > > WCh *q.waf- "hoof: Hs kwa:fa, Ang kwe:p.
> > >
> > >
> > > That is borrowed into Khow, not native:
> > > qàf = claw/talon Kh;
>
> >
> > That is interesting.
> > I assume Khow is a language?
>
>
> The native cognate is sapùk. I mention Khow (also called Khowar)
> [the l. of the Khow people; named the same as Kohistan; rel. to
> kaufa- = mt OP; ko:h P;] all the time because of its vast importance
> in Ind-Iran. studies (branching, timing of migrations, languages
> contacted, etc.). It has not received the needed attention from
> linguists, mostly because of Morgenstierne's mistakes in studying
> and describing it.


>
> > Orël & Stolbobova don't mention it.
> > Would you like to explain the appearance of a seeming cognate of
> > the IE "hoof" word in AfroAsiatic languages?
> >
>
>
> Though I haven't studied it closely, I assume the changes:
>
> *
> kapxYuko+
> kapxYu o+ dis.
> kapxYw o+
> kapxYwo+
> kaxYpwo+
> xo:pa+
>
>
> were matched:
>
> *
> kapxYuko+
> kapxYu o+ dis.
> kapxYw o+
> kapxYwo+
> kapHxYwo+
> kxYwapHo+
> kxYwapHpHo+
> kxYwapHFo+
> kxYwapHxWo+
> etc.
> q'Xwap'q'Xwà
>
>
> That is if they are desc. from the same source;

That is if those AfroAsiatic languages are descended(?) from the same source as the Iranian ones?

> a borrowing between such l. isn't impossible, which seems to be the
> souce of:
>
> kapí- = ape/monkey, kapí- \ kapilá- = brownish/reddish RV S; qephi >Eg;

How do you think your elaborate scheme for the "hoof" word will fare, once you admit the possibility of loan?


Torsten