Re: Who were the Igylliones?

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
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> Little bits and pieces while waiting for Pachkova's magnum opus...
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> The Igylliones are mentioned in Ptolemy's Geography at III,5. They supposedly inhabited the territory east of the Vistula ( and east of the Avarini at the source of the Vistula), and west of the Costoboci and Transmontani.

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> Question: Is there any way of etymologizing <igylli> as Germanic ?
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Possibly w the Ingvaeones if:

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ingwayones
igwanyones
igwalyones n-n dis.
igwallyones
iguwalliyones

or similar (translation makes only speculation possible for any exact changes)

 

***GK: This suggestion might be (partly) verifiable if one assumes that Pliny's "Inguaeones" was not only a more general label for Cimbri, Teutones, and Chauci, but could also apply to a specific group (as his "Vandili" for instance). One would need to carefully examine the material culture of the locale (Pachkova would have done this) and see if there is anything which could link it to that of the Germanic West of the Inguaeonic area. At least this hypothesis is less difficult to focus on than others. Offhand I have some doubts, since it is only for Gothic times that archaeologists have found evidence of Germanics wandering this far east from Inguaeonia. But new stuff may have been discovered and if so Pachkova would report it. So we'll see.****