Re: Who were the Igylliones?

Adding a name...

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@> wrote:
> >
> > Little bits and pieces while waiting for Pachkova's magnum opus...
> >  
> > The Igylliones are mentioned in Ptolemy's Geography at III,5. They
> > supposedly inhabited the territory east of the Vistula ( and east
> > of the Avarini at the source of the Vistula), and west of the
> > Costoboci and Transmontani. We know the difficulties associated
> > with Ptolemy data, and with his utilization of his many sources.
> > The contextual time frame seems post-Pliny (who localized the
> > Costoboci among the Sarmatians of the Caucasus area).
> >  
> > Question: Is there any way of etymologizing <igylli> as Germanic ?
> > There are similar sounding names, and this could be just
> > coincidence. But if the word has Germanic affinities, then we
> > would have a third internal Bastarnian tribal designation. Any
> > ideas?
>
> If we cast the net wide, we can, starting from a hypothetical
> *(w)aN-l/r-
> derive the following ethnonyms
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izhorians
> of
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingria
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angles
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angrivarii
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambrones
> of
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fehmarn

(*wę-r- -> *vem-r -> *fe:m-r)

> and
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amrum

and with that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagri

>
> This root seems to span across IE and Uralic languages. Were the
> Igylliones Finnic-speaking? Venetic?
>
>
> Torsten
>