From: Torsten
Message: 67123
Date: 2011-01-19
>Does it? Dutch /a:/ in <draaien> is low back. And in <gooien> and <pooien> you find the same -i- after long vowel.
> At 5:09:26 PM on Monday, January 17, 2011, Torsten wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <bm.brian@> wrote:
> >>
> >> At 4:07:27 AM on Monday, January 17, 2011, Torsten wrote:
> >>
> >> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott"
> >> > <bm.brian@> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> At 4:41:13 AM on Sunday, January 16, 2011, Torsten wrote:
> >>
> >> >>> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott"
> >> >>> <bm.brian@> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>>> At 4:49:33 AM on Tuesday, January 11, 2011, Torsten
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> [...]
> >>
> >> >>>>> Still, the Dutch (and LG, 'dreiht' ibd.) -i needs an
> >> >>>>> explanation.
> >>
> >> >>>> You mean in <draai->? It's simply a different way of
> >> >>>> breaking the original hiatus, parallel to the OHG
> >> >>>> variant <drÄjan>.
> >>
> >> >>> That's your proposal? I don't think so, *-o-a- to *-oya-
> >> >>> is not a natural phonetic development.
> >>
> >> >> Nor did I suggest it. The hiatus in question is the one in
> >> >> <drÄan>.
> >>
> >> > That doesn't make any it better. *-a-a- to *-aya- is not a
> >> > natural phonetic development.
> >>
> >> It does if at least one of the pair is not a back vowel, but
> >> rather in the [a] ~ [æ] range. As was evidently the case in
> >> OHG (<draen>, <drajan>, <drajen>, etc.).
>
> > The -en is -Én.
>
> In OHG? Who knows? Not that it matters much if the first
> <a> represents a low front vowel, as seems likely.
> <shrug>Unless I meet a good argument.
>
> Believe what you like; you will anyway.
>