Re: Ktistai

From: Torsten
Message: 66768
Date: 2010-10-13

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "bmscotttg" <bm.brian@...> wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Torsten" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
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> >> But the same anlaut stop might appear in some unpredictable
> >> Slavic alternation:
> >> Russian tsvetI, Polish kwiat, "flower" cf.
> >> Engl twig, ON kvistr "twig", kvisl "(river, tree) branch"
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> >> and if we assume a similar meaning "set of wooden slats" as for
> >> Gmc
> >> *bo:k-, we could reconstruct for Slavic "book":
> >> *kYeŋ-a- -> *kYing-a- -> kniga, and
> >> *kYeŋ-ka -> *kYŋeg-ka- -> Pol. książka
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> > Perhaps better:
> > *kYŋ-énk-a -> *kYn-íng-a -> Russ. etc kníga
> > *kYŋ-énk-ka -> *kY-éNg-ka -> Polish książka
> > cf.
> > *kUn-éng- > Russ. knyaz (<- *kneNz), Pol. ksiądz
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> Miguel, in sci.lang six years ago:
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> The context is initial *kUneN- > knjeN-/knjaN-. There are
> early spellings with xn-, which suggest that the initial
> cluster knj- (after the loss of yers) developed into ksnj-,
> and the nasal was dissimilated before a following nasal
> vowel (ksnjVN- > ksjVN-). In other combinations, the /s/
> was eventually lost, and we have knj- or kn- (with
> depalatalization), e.g. knieja (kneja).
>

Ah, so I wasn't so far off, except of course I assume extra-Slavic provenance. My Polish dictionary does not have much by way of ks-; it seems
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ksi%C4%85%C5%BCka
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ksi%C4%85dz
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ksi%C4%99%C5%BCyc
and their relatives are the only ones.
But if the origins of these words are identical, was the king (*kun-ing-as) then a
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ksi%C4%99gowy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accountant
?


Torsten