From: Rick McCallister
Message: 66763
Date: 2010-10-13
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <bm.brian@...> wrote:
>
> At 3:18:47 PM on Saturday, October 9, 2010, shivkhokra wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott"
> > <bm.brian@> wrote:
>
> >> At 2:53:50 PM on Saturday, October 9, 2010, shivkhokra
> >> wrote:
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> >>> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Francesco Brighenti"
> >>> <frabrig@> wrote:
>
> >>>> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "shivkhokra"
> >>>> <shivkhokra@> wrote:
>
> >>>>> We should also think about why on Crete the palaces were
> >>>>> called PUR on linear B tablets and not the greek term
> >>>>> polis. Pur is what palaces are in Vedas.
>
> >>>> If you are referring to the term "pu-ro", attested
> >>>> repeatedly in Linear B tablets, that is considered a
> >>>> place-name (Greek Pulos, i.e. Pylos), not a word for
> >>>> 'palace'.
>
> >>> No one doubts that Vedic Pur and Greek Polis are one and
> >>> the same. Crete had palace names such as ma-to-ro puro,
> >>> rauratijo puro etc. Compare such names to how palace
> >>> founded cities are named in India: Udaipur, Jodhpur etc.
>
> >> You appear to have completely missed Francesco's point,
> >> which is that all of this is completely irrelevant to Linear
> >> B <pu-ro> 'Pulos', which cannot have the same source.
>
> > No. I have given two examples: matoropuro and rauratijo
> > puro
>
> And *again* you miss the point. If you cannot read any
> better than that, you're wasting everyone's time.
No. I find it strange that you are considering Homer the "geographer's" Pylos as gospel, eventhough Crete existed 700 years prior to Homer, and the fact that many modern scholars reject misguided (nationalistic?)attempts to seek "history" in Homer.
At the same time you have no words of admonishment for McAllister and Brighenti when they say that Vedic Saraswati is not the same Saraswati that is now a dry river bed even though Rg Veda list rivers *in order* starting from Ganga and travelling west and each of these rivers is still at exactly the same spot as given in the verse.
Why such double standard?
Shivraj
PS: Seals on Crete contain the name Ma-to-ro. Minoan Cretan language belongs to Satem group unlike Greek. Their is reference to Siva like destroyer on Cretan tablets.
No one knows what group Creto-Minoan belongs to because no one can read more than a handful of words that it shared with Greek or through context. It definitely seems not to have been Indo-European.
BTW: My last name is Mc Callister (with a space between the 2 words) and my ancestors are from Loch Briciu, named for a god whom who may wish to break bread with.