>Are you sure? Above, you considered a d/l alternation in assigning
>Turk etc kula etc to the 'cot' words, so why not d/r?
But only because of that Udmurt kwala did _kVlV_ occur to my
mind (and Turkic and Old Iranian idioms AFAIK indeed were
nextdoor neighbors to Udmurt). (Yet they might be unrelated,
I don't know.)
>Cf.
>http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/kr.html
Indeed, most of the Hungarian K-R- and G-R- words I am aware of
fit most of those G-R- & K-R- words listed on your page. As of G-L-
& K-L- I don't know. (e.g. a stark contrast to me Hebrew, Aramaic,
Amharic G-L- worts for "wheel" and "roll" versus Hungarian K-R-:
kerék ['kaere:k] "wheel", kerek- "round, circle-like, ring-like",
karika "circle, loop, round, ring". (I have to mention that I don't
know whether these Hungarian K-R- words meaning "circle; ring;
loop; enclosure" are of Ugric origin or rather of Old Iranian origin.
Hungarian basic and old vocabulary has a significant number of
old Iranianisms (including words for "God"), along with old Turkic
and slavic lexemes.)
>Again, can't rule it out. But we have to remember that we are
>dealing with a Wanderwort.
Brought to Europe by primeval "Indoeuropeans" or later on by
people who had gotten it as a loanword from languages in Asia?
OTOH (as of Gdansk & Gdynia), if Gdansk has nothing to do with
Goths, Gotland (the isle) has, hasn't it?
(maps.google.com show me that a Goth leaving Gotland for
calling in on "next-door" neighbors would visit these addresses
first (before making a sightseing tour to see the palaces of the
caesars and Trastevere :)):
Kalmar, Karlskrona, Koszalin, Slupsk, Gdynia, Gdansk,
Kaliningrad, Klaipeda, Liepaja, Riga (thus, Gdansk lies just
in the middle of this West-South-West, South, South-East-East
"fan").
George
--
Waren die Goten die "Guten"? So wie die Langobarden die "Langbärti-
gen" und die Franken "die Franken" (damals: "die Kühnen")?