Re: Welsh ll in English (was: Nordwestblock, Germani, and Grimm's la

I heard a (California) English speaker pronounce it as [Sl] ("shl") word-initially.

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham" <richard.wordingham@...> wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@> wrote:
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> > After simple <l(l)>, the most common English attempts to
> > represent the Welsh sound are probably <fl> and <thl>.
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> Nowadays the usual substitutes are initial /kl/, intervocal <Tl> and final /T/, where /T/ is the voiceless dental fricative.
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> Richard.
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