From: tgpedersen
Message: 64575
Date: 2009-08-03
>I'd better add some context:
>
> > > But I do have nice etymology for
> > > ON maðkr, Da. maddike, Sw. mask, mark "maggot", I could give
> > > you.
> >
> > Shoot, you kno you want to.
> >
> Pokorny
> 1. math- oder moth- in Worten für nagendes, beißendes Gewürm oder
> Ungeziefer ? ?
> Arm. mat´il ,Laus'; got. maþa, m. ahd. mado,
> ags. maða ,Wurm, Made', aisl. maþkr ds., aschwed. matk,
> finn. Lw. matikka ,Würmchen'.
>
> Standard stuff. Note the Armenian form.
>
> From
> Pokorny's
> I. mol- (auch smel-), mel&- : mle:-,
> etc
>
> add
>
> ahd. mil(i)wa ,Milbe' (*melwjo);
> got. malo: n.,
> aisl. mo,lr (*molu-) ,Motte (mehlmachendes Tierchen');
> abg. molI (*moli-) ds.,
> arm. dial. m&GmóG (aus *mol/mol/) ,Motte';
>
> OK too.
>
> and
>
>
> Etymological Dictionary of the Kartvelian Languages:
>
> Common Kartvelian
> *ma-t.l- 'worm': Georg. mat.l- 'worm';
> Megr. munt.ur-; Laz munt.u(r)-, munt.r-; Svan m&t..
> The lexeme is well attested in Old Georgian
> (mat.li mati ara daesrulebis 'their worm dieth not' Mk. 9.48).
> It must be taken to be a nominal derivative with a prefix ma- from
> the verb stem *t.l- 'to gnaw (about worms)'. Georgian l and Zan ur
> regularly reflect an old l. The original vowel underwent a
> change a > o > u in Megrelian in proximity to the labial. The
> vocalism of the Svan form needs explanation.
>
>
> Now look at the distribution. Kartvelian, Armenian, Germanic, and
> the word is derivable in Kartvelian only.
>
> That looks kinda solid. But, complication:
>
> Common Kartvelian(?) *mG- 'moth(?)':
> Georg. mG-il- 'moth, a small worm'; Svan mG-ul 'insect'.
> The word is found in Old Georgian: arca mGilman ganrq.unis...
> 'neither moth corrupteth...' Lk. 12.33. The Georgian and Svan
> cognates have different derivational affixes (the final l of the
> inherited stem could not have been preserved in Svan).
>
> this seems to be related, but not derivable from *t.l-
>
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