From: Rick McCallister
Message: 63567
Date: 2009-03-05
> From: tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...>does geek figure into any of this?
> Subject: [tied] Re: Gmc. w-/g-, j-/g-
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 8:40 PM
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Jarrette"
> <anjarrette@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com,
> "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com,
> "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://runeberg.org/display.pl?mode=facsimile&work=svetym&page=0300
> > >
> > > gyckla, "conjure, perform tricks"
> > > 1600's. alt. -ö- = Da. gøgle,
> > > from MLG gôkelen, LG gökeln (-ü) =
> > > OHG goukelôn (Germ. gaukeln) etc, cf.
> > > OHG gougolôn plus MHG gogelen; poss.
> > > rel. to MHG giege(l), (court) jester,
> > > and in that case native Germanic;
> > > in any case prob., as also gyckel
> > > (MLG gokel) gycklare (mlty. gökeler),
> > > influenced by
> > > MLat. jocularis, jocularius, musician, conjurer
> > > (see jonglera).
> >
> >
> > Any chance that OHG goukelôn, MLG gôkelen could be
> related to MLG
> > gôk "simpleton", ON gaukr
> "cuckoo", Engl gowk "cuckoo; simpleton,
> > fool", OE géac "cuckoo", OHG gouh
> "cuckoo, bastard, fool", G gauch
> > "cuckoo, simpleton, gawk", which OED relates
> to *gau- as in ON
> > geyja "to bark, to blaspheme", WFris geije
> "to cry out", ME yeie
> > "to cry out, shout, call out, utter in a loud
> voice"? Possible
> > semantic development would be
> "fool>jester>entertainer>conjurer"
> > and then the verbs could develop from the latter with
> the influence
> > of Lat. joculator?
> cf. DEO
> 'I. gæk en
> 1. (gl.) 'bevægelig mekanisme'.
> 2. 'nar, skælm';
> glda. d.s. (betydn. 2), no. gjekk, sv. gäck;
> lån fra mnty. geck, modsv. ty. Geck;
> hører ligesom fx
> no. dial. geiga 'svinge til side',
> ty. dial. geigen 'bevæge sig frem og tilbage',
> ty. Geige 'violin',
> mnty. gi:ge d.s. (jf. freo. gige) til
> ie. *g^hei-gh-, en udvidelse til *g^he:- 'gabe', se
> gabe.
> '
>