Re: s-stems in Slavic and Germanic

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, altamix <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

> From: altamix <alxmoeller@...>
> Subject: [tied] Re: s-stems in Slavic and Germanic
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 6:45 AM
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen"
> <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> > > I don't think non-native speakers
> "ran" German or Russian,
> > > otherwise these languages would be very different
> today,
> > > wouldn't they? I think it depends on the
> language, each
> > > language's particular situation.
> >
> > Turkic-speakers 'ran' Bulgarian and
> Macedonian, and today they have
> > no case system, unlike all other Slavic languages.
>
> < SNIP >
> > Torsten
> >
>
> are you sure that Turkic-speakers are these who influenced
> Bulgarian language? So far I know, their influence on the
> Bulgarian
> language is reduced just to words borrowing and eventually
> some
> sufixes, mostly obsolete now in the language. I remember
> about
> Bulgarian as beeing said, the Romance and
> "Thracic" should be these
> who influenced the language. The Turkish Bulgars it is said
> to have
> been assimilated and they should left just a few traces in
> the
> language, most of them very disputet, even today. Beside of
> the old
> Bulgars and beside of the Otoman Turks, the other Turkish
> speaking
> people ( Avars, Cumans, etc) could not influence the
> language, at
> least not in the manner of losing its flexion.
>
> Alex

It was probably a combination of the effect of a succession of Thracian, Ancient Macedonian, Greek, Latin, pre-Romanian, Bulgar Turkish and Slavic spoken in the same place in a span of c. 1000 years. That would do wonders to any grammar.