Re: The Romanian Family name Pencea

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 62589
Date: 2009-01-25

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tolgs001" <trbetfgnan.z05q4w@...>
wrote:
>
> Pencea, Penciu and Penciulescu must have the same root
> as the Bulgarian Pentcho and Pentchev.
>
> Perhaps in addition Panciu, Pantchevo, and Pancu, Pankow
> (near Berlin).
>
> George
>


1. I wouldn't link Panciu with Pencea.
In this case why not to add Sancho Pancha into equation?

2. The link beween Pencea and Pentchev is done also by Iorgu Iordan
in his Dictionary of Family Names with no indication about his final
etymology. To put in link Pencea and Penchev is pertinent.

Now, as I know Penchev (variant Pentchev) is limited to the
Balkanic Areal (especially in Bulgaria) so it isn't a Pan-Slavic name.

A search on Google clearly show out this:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Penchev&meta=

The names appear especially in Plovdiv area

Question for you: if the final etymology of the name would be a
Slavic One why the areal of it is limited to Bulgaria, so to Balkans?
(The Slavs arrival in Balkans is dated only in sec VI-VII AC)

3. As a similar example: a city like Panc^evo (in Banatul S^arbesc)
that appears to have a complete Slavic phonology is in fact
originated from his older name:

Panucea and/or Panuka (sec VIII-X)
(that goes more on the direction of the same root with Pannonia,
even is only a guess of course)

See again on Google
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?
hl=en&sl=sr&u=http://www.arhivpancevo.org.yu/ist.htm&sa=X&oi=translate
&resnum=8&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpancevo%2Bpanuka%26start%3D30%
26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN


Marius