From: Arnaud Fournet
Message: 61869
Date: 2008-12-04
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From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
>> You once said you read Martinet "Economie des Changements phonétiques".
>> It's much against Entropy.
>
> Entropy inevitably increases in thermodynamically isolated systems.
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There exists no isolated language.
For that reason all your following reasoning is absurd.
A.
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> Certainly not. In all these cases the aspiration is secondary and the
> plain stop is etymological. The odd think about accented <oukHí> is the
> use of aspiration outside its original sandhi context. It has made some
> linguists speculate that we have encliting *-gHí lurking there. But
> Ionic Greek has <oukí>, which cannot be so explained (neither can
> prevocalic <ouk>), while <oukHí> _can_ be analogical (say, as an
> innovative strong form based on <oukH> and generalised in other contexts
> in the Attic dialect), so it's more likely to be secondary.
>
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The absence of a clear phonetic motivation for ouki or oukhi is disturbing
more than explanatory.
A.
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> Greek has some instances of intrusive /n/, but no
> cases of intrusive /k/, at least to my knowledge.
>
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This is important to notice.
A.