Re: Scandinavia and the Germanic tribes such as Goths, Vandals, Angl

From: tgpedersen
Message: 61242
Date: 2008-11-02

> > To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 12:58 PM
> > > . . .
> > > > I think 'Goth' is a pre-Germanic word which is identical to
> > > > the word 'Jute' and that it designated the various
> > > > pre-Germanic peoples. The emigration to the southern Baltic
> > > > shores was made by disgruntled natives opposing the new
> > > > regime in Scandinavia, but since their leaders were literate
> > > > in the new language of their oppressors they ended up
> > > > speaking a dialect of that.
> > >
> > >
> > > Or, better yet, could Goth be a designation of the "Eastern
> > > Germanic People"?
> >
> > Erh, so you're saying we should leave 'Goth' as meaning what it
> > means now? I disagree, obviously.

>
> Burgundians and Vandals, etc. are also lumped in with E Germanic
--so now Goth is just seens as a branch of E Gmc AFAIK

We don't know much about the Burgundian and Vandalic languages; the
idea that they are East Germanic is purely geographic. I don't want to
change the meaning of the words 'Goth' and 'Jute', I am just proposing
that they were once the same word and designated probably just one tribe.


Torsten