From: george knysh
Message: 61221
Date: 2008-11-02
--- On Sun, 11/2/08, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
the Germanic languages we
know now have all descended from a language that was spoken somewhere
around Silesia 2000 years
****GK: This must have been the language of the Przeworsk culture people (PK). The PK was constituted in the 3rd c BCE in an area which included Silesia, but also Central and Southern Poland. There is no evidence that the language of Silesia differed from that of other areas of the PK.****
which spread by a series of events which
started with the campaign towards the south of a certain Harjagistaz
(probably just a title) who also invented a writing system for that
language by copying some alphabets of Noricum.
****GK: This is Torsten's Ariovistus fantasy. He's been peddling this for years, has been repeatedly shot down, but keeps coming back with it. He just loves to flog dead horses.****
If Proto-Germanic from Silesia is a language of Jastorf people in
Silesia, the languages of Jastorf were Para-Germanic.
****GK: Jastorf is indeed the main source of the PK. But it is also the main source of the Oksywie culture (the early Goths were there, with others), of the Poeneshti-Lukashovka culture (the Bastarnians), and to some extent of the Zarubinian culture (though here the Pomeranian "Venedic" element was more significant). Since there is no way of proving that the language of Silesia was more "Germanic" than that of Central, Northern, or Southern Poland, or that of Bastarnian Moldavia, it's best to assume that Jastorf was already "Germanic" prior to its expansion.****