Re: Salt, s-/h- ALLOBROGES

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:

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> --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:
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> > From: Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...>
> > Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Salt, s-/h- ALLOBROGES
> > To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 1:34 PM
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> > From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
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> > Michel Lejeune,
> > Manuel de la langue Vénète
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> > Torsten
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> > Are you sure
> > the way you are using "Venetic"
> > makes any sense and has any relationship
> > with the way Lejeune uses "Vénète" ?
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> > I'm afraid you are calling someone
> > as a witness for your "hyper-Venetic" case
> > Who does not support anything of your own theories.
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> > My own understanding of Lejeune
> > (but I'm ready to acknowledge I'm not well enough
> > versed in it)
> > is that Lejeune assumes Venetic to be a kind of Italic
> > language.
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> > Arnaud
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> I have to agree with Arnaud.
> Venetic, as we know it and as it has been named, is either an Italic

language or a language closely related to Italic ("Italoid" is a term
I've seen used).

> In naming conventions, the oldest usage of the name usually applies,

even when it is later determined to be wrong later on --e.g. there are
arguments regarding the identification of Olmecs with historical
Olmecs, and of Tokharians with historical Tokharoi.

> So if you're are applying Venetic to something else than the

language spoken in NE Italy, you need to distinguish it.

No can do. There's an old tradition for calling unclassified bits of
language from Central Europe Venetic; I follow that, or rather I
follow its speakers themselves in calling them Veneti, whether they
live on the Adria, on the Baltic or somewhere in between. You'll have
to tell from context.


Torsten