Re: [SPAM] Re: [tied] Re: Salt, s-/h-

--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:

> From: Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...>
> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [tied] Re: Salt, s-/h-
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 3:05 AM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Piotr Gasiorowski"
> <gpiotr@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [tied] Re: Salt, s-/h-
>
>
> >
> > On 2008-10-09 01:16, Rick McCallister wrote:
> >
> >> Let me risk a pie in the face on this one. The
> *turs- forms are often
> >> related to a word for "tower.". What is
> the chance they could be a
> >> bastardization of *etrus- > *trus- > *turs-
> ?
> >
> > Why the metathesis? (Etruscan speakers had no
> particular problems with
> > /tr-/). Why should the initial vowel heve been lost?
> Is there any
> > evidence of *tru:s- anywhere? (the vowel should have
> been long at this
> > stage, as it was in <etru:s->).
> > Piotr
> =============
> The form tursk may be the name Etruscans adopted for
> themselves from their
> neighbours.
> lost of initial e : because Etruscan has stress on initial,
> the e must be
> discarded to stress tursk on the first.
> metathesis : because out of etrurousk, variants like
> etrursk > etursk have
> existed.
> It may not be a metathesis but a different simplification
> of -uru:-
> short u : because Etruscan had no long vowel.
>
> I'm very sceptical about the idea of rejecting any
> connection between etrusk
> and tursk.
> It seems impossible. Toscana and Etruria are more or less
> the same place, or
> not ?
>
> Arnaud
> ============

I'm neutral on the idea but want to hear what people think.
The Etruscans, BTW, called themselves Rasenna > later Rasna.
And some people go togreat lengths to shoehorn this into the other forms as well.