Re: immigration, Germanic and Indo-Aryan

From: Sarvesh Tiwari
Message: 59882
Date: 2008-08-27

>>Contrast this with India, where strictly nobody and no single line in
>>the whole of Indic literature refers to any proto-Indo-Aryan
>>immigration, as Elphinstone already observed in the 1840s and as has
>>only been confirmed since.

Well, unless we consider mahAbhArata a source to refer to, where at one place kR^iShNa relates to the eldest pANDava an old history that after the kshatriya-slaughter in a bygone era by parashurAma, the remainder kshatriya-s had fled away from India and spread out to the whole world establishing kingdoms at all places.  Mentioning, that the ruling Kingdoms all over the world had ancestry in those vanished kshatriyas that had once lived in India as per this tale.  (Though that is not necessarily proto-indo-aryan to be precise.)
 
There are some more west-bound exodus tales mentioned in mahAbhArata, at times vaguely, many times more clearly.  I hope we had a more sound methodology for filtering out historical truths from poetic embellishments from plain exaggerations from scribal oversights.
 
Regards
Sarvesh 






To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
From: koenraad.elst@...
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:13:07 +0000
Subject: [tied] immigration, Germanic and Indo-Aryan


Wow, that's pretty sophisticated. Snorri was already wary of folk
etymology, he seriously considered notions of language migration,
language adoption because of elite dominance, substrate elements, and
an "Asian" origin of Germanic. Of course, the immigration of Germanic
from the east was already pretty far removed in time from Snorri, a
few thousand years, so I don't want to give his opinion too much
weight as a testimony, but all the same, his statement is there.
Contrast this with India, where strictly nobody and no single line in
the whole of Indic literature refers to any proto-Indo-Aryan
immigration, as Elphinstone already observed in the 1840s and as has
only been confirmed since.

Kind regards,

KE




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