Re[2]: [tied] Re: a discussion on OIT

At 1:40:07 AM on Sunday, May 25, 2008, Rick McCallister
wrote:

> --- david_russell_watson <liberty@...> wrote:

>> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister
>> <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:

[...]

>>> It happened in Franco and Ibero Romance. In Italian and
>>> English there was "chentumization" e.g. Italian cento,
>>> English church, etc.

>> The change seen in Italian 'cento' isn't comparable to
>> the Satem change, for it's conditioned by the frontality
>> of 'e',

> and /i/

And for that matter [a] < Latin [A], though not in some
Northern varieties.

>> while the Satem change was unconditioned.

> Wrong, it happened to palatovelars, but not to velars.

And for palatovelars it was unconditional.

> The phenomenon in Franco and Ibero-Romance also occured in
> palatovelars. It is true that palatovelars in those
> languages only occured before palatal vowels, but the
> process is the same.

No, it isn't: the front vowels are the trigger, first of
palatalization, then of affrication, e.g., kentum > t^entU >
tse~nt (> sãnt > sÃ), kArrum > kArrU > karrU > tSar (> Sar >
SaR).

Brian