Re: For MKelkar, Kishore and all those other anti-linguists

--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:55 PM
> Subject: [tied] Re: For MKelkar, Kishore and all
> those other anti-linguists
>
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister
> <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > The next point is that Alsatia, which had
> voted to become French
> > > > long ago, had been stolen from France after
> the 1870 war,
> > > > and this is the cause for the next war.
> > >
> > > I hadn't about that vote. I can't find it in
> Wikipedia
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsace-Lorraine
> > > Tell me about it.
> > >
> > >
> > > Torsten
> > >
> > Keep in mind that France stole Alsace from Germany
> c.
> > 1700, which set off a wave of Protestant refugees
> to
> > Germany, including many French-speaking Huguenots
> > among them. Most probably ultimately ended up the
> US
> > but many went to Prussia and took their
> animosities
> > with them.
>
>
> The one thing I didn't find in the Wikipedia article
> on Alsace is that
> the French occupation of Alsace led to French
> control of traffic on
> the Rhine so that they could strangle Dutch trade
> with Italy through
> the Swiss passes, which led to the end of the Dutch
> Gouden Eeuw (but
> fortunately the Dutch king before that had invaded
> England, with
> domestic collusion of course, so the English could
> learn how
> Parliament could rein in the power of their monarch,
> I learn on
> Richard Starkey's series on Monarchy on my cable),
> which is not so
> strange, since I made up that theory myself, but I
> think it holds.
>
> Torsten
>
> ===========
> Are you paranoid ?
>
> Your article on wikipedia says that there was no
> economic border
> between Alsace and German Provinces for years.
> What is this strangling theory ?
>
> I definitely prefer your substrate theories
> even when I defer.
>
> Keep by your core competences.
>
> Arnaud
> ==========
>

Arnaud, it seems that French history ignores
unpleasant aspects about as much as history everywhere
else. If you were to ask Americans and Mexicans about
their history you would get 2 completely different
histories. So it doesn't surprise me that you don't
know about the Prostestant exodus from Alsace when it
was invaded by Louis XIV c. 1700