Re: For MKelkar, Kishore and all those other anti-linguists

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 58613
Date: 2008-05-18

--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
>
> >> I hadn't about that vote. I can't find it in
> >> Wikipedia
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsace-Lorraine
> >> Tell me about it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Torsten
> >>
> > Keep in mind that France stole Alsace from Germany
> c.
> > 1700, which set off a wave of Protestant refugees
> to
> > Germany, including many French-speaking Huguenots
> > among them. Most probably ultimately ended up the
> US
> > but many went to Prussia and took their
> animosities
> > with them.
> >
> =======
>
> The wikipedia reference of Torsten does not support
> your absurd statement.
> Just read it more thoroughly.
>
> That was about Spanish Habsbourgs
> Alsatian protestantism was not repressed.
> Germany did not exist at that time.
>
> Actually, it's the first time you make such an
> inadequate and aggressive
> statement.
>
> Arnaud

It's very much true. Learn some history, not just
official ideology. Some of my ancestors were forced
out of that region. Check out genealogical sites
--they have the documents. There were supposedly tens
of thousands of refugees. Many were taken in by the
British and while most ended up in America, some were
even settled in Ireland. In Limerick, I met descendant
of those refugees with "Irish" names like Cline and
Mann, etc. They formed a large percentage of the
Pennsylvania "Dutch." Alsace was a Huguenot refuge
area, among other things, until Louis XIV moved in. By
that time, many of them had learned German. This is
seen in my ancestors who had Germanized versions of
French names such as Grass < La Grasse, Pauley <
Paulet, Brasscher < Brasseur, etc. There is a
Französischkirche in Berlin that was built to take in
these refugees.
And this was just part of a greater Huguenot exodus in
which over a million left France. You did learn about
that, right? Among those who didn't pass through
Germany, the names weren't bastardized until they came
to America, hence des Moulins > Mullins, La Basquette
> Baskett, Reveillon > Ravillion, Soublette > Sublett,
Lafon stayed the same, etc.
The history of Alsace is very complex and local rulers
often changed religions for political purposes, often
provoking mass population shifts -but in the end, it
all got gobbled up by France.