From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 58579
Date: 2008-05-18
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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] For MKelkar, Kishore and all those other anti-linguists
>
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> From: "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
> >
> > Germany is even farther down the same road. There is no free speech in
> > Germany; and the nonsense Miller details about German linguistics (and
> > science, in general) is sadly true.
<...>
> > ***
>
> You have a strange way of rewriting history.
>
> The first point is that the massive destruction caused by WWI occurred in
> France.
> Germany was not physically impacted,
> apart from the obvious two millions of dead people.
>
> The next point is that Alsatia, which had voted to become French long ago,
> had been stolen from France after the 1870 war,
> and this is the cause for the next war.
> French people in 1870 lost a province, paid millions of gold for having
> lost
> the 1870 war,
> that's a clear humiliation.
> People did not become Nazi as the result of this humiliation
> So what you allege as a cause is not a cause, just a moment.
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Patrick:
Because of Alsace and Lorraine, and the loss of 1870, the French were
willing to participate in a plot to destroy Germany as England's commercial
rival and competitor in Africa.
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>
> The real causes are deeper,
> in the cultural, intellectual
> and also religious roots of Germanhood after 1800.
>
> Most Germans have been faithful to the regime down to the last second,
> You need a strong adhesion to obtain that.
> This is not just submission or fear
> It's a strong deep-rooted adhesion
> And people had been prepared for this ideology for long.
>
> I have never seen a book that explains that clearly,
>
> The man who stamped LEER on the wagons conveying Jews
> 500 km away from a concentration camp
> perfectly knows what 's going on.
>
> Arnaud
> ==========
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Patrick:
What are the "deeper" causes for the French people mobilizing behind a
Corsican for power and pillage?
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