From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 58577
Date: 2008-05-18
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From: "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
>
> Germany is even farther down the same road. There is no free speech in
> Germany; and the nonsense Miller details about German linguistics (and
> science, in general) is sadly true.
>
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I have much difficulty that there is no free speech in Germany in 2008,
This really sounds strange.
If it's true in Germany, why is it wrong in France ?
I do not perceive any significant difference
between the two countries,
but I have no experience in living in Germany.
Arnaud
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>>
>> I still think the study of the intellectual roots of Nazism has to be
>> made,
>> and it must include a chapter about paleo-linguistics.
>> Biographies of Hitler are instrumental,
>> they do not explain why and since when the seeds were germinating.
>>
>> Arnaud
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> Patrick:
>
> Intellectual fantasies do not sway or motivate the masses.
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Nationalism does.
Arnaud
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>
> Naziism is an emotional reaction by all the German people to the
> humiliation of the Versailles Treaty, the false assignment of blame to
> Germany for instigating the war, and the horrendous destruction of the
> German economy brought on by war reparations.
>
> When anyone is unfairly persecuted, he will seek any relief, no matter how
> radical, to restore his pride and economic well-being.
>
> ***
You have a strange way of rewriting history.
The first point is that the massive destruction caused by WWI occured in
France.
Germany was not physically impacted,
apart from the obvious two millions of dead people.
The next point is that Alsatia, which had voted to become French long ago,
had been stolen from France after the 1870 war,
and this is the cause for the next war.
French people in 1870 lost a province, paid millions of gold for having lost
the 1870 war,
that's a clear humiliation.
People did not become Nazi as the result of this humiliation
So what you allege as a cause is not a cause, just a moment.
The real causes are deeper,
in the cultural, intellectual
and also religious roots of Germanhood after 1800.
Most Germans have been faithful to the regime down to the last second,
You need a strong adhesion to obtain that.
This is not just submission or fear
It's a strong deep-rooted adhesion
And people had been prepared for this ideology for long.
I have never seen a book that explains that clearly,
The man who stamped LEER on the wagons conveying Jews
500 km away from a concentration camp
perfectly knows what 's going on.
Arnaud
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