Re: Who can explain the comparisons?

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> Subject: [tied] Who can explain the comparisons?
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> > Dear all,
> >
> > Those who think Aryans have come from Urals or
> somewhere else seem to be
> > getting into more and more soup, not palatable one
> at that.
> ============
> Indo-european Indic probably came from Vad, Moksha
> and Alatyr Rivers Valleys
> in Russia
> while Indo-european Iranic came from Dniepr, Dniestr
> southern Russian
> Valleys.
> Indo-european data make it clear
> and Uralic data make it clear as well.
> Where is the problem ?
> Seems like clear water.
> Arnaud
> ===============
> > To start with, one would be tempted to say that
> the horse sacrifice of
> > Altai
> > Turks of the Urals is a pre runner of Aryan
> aswamedha. MW would want us to
> > believe that Br Up's Dadhici and Aswin's story is
> a replay of a long
> > tradition in Urals when the man is sacrificed and
> his head is replaced
> > with
> > that of a horse.
> >
> > So long it is fine, before you are stuck with a
> Dravidian language in
> > Urals. Would you want to say that even that is a
> pre runner of Indian
> > Dravidian languages?
> =======
> Dravidian is more entitled than Indo-Iranian to
> claim Autochthony in India.
> It makes no sense to push Dravidian out of India,
> worst of all, in Urals.
> Arnaud
> =============
> >
> > Not very comfortable question to answer , right??
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Kishore patnaik
> ========
>
> Everything is clear.
> Dravidian is autochthonous to southern India.
> Indic came from the mid-stream southern bank of the
> Volga River.
> Where is the uncomfortable question ?
> Obvious questions are cake.
> Arnaud
> ============
>

Not quite autochthonous but more so than Indo-Aryan.
There are traces of substrate in S. Dravidian, so
something else was obviously there before.
There is Dravidian substrate in Sindhi, Gujerati and
Rajasthani, so the Dravidian speakers were once in
middle and NW India