Re: beyond langauges

Here is a nice link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlingit_language#phonology
Three kinds of /tl/ phonemes (unmarked, aspirated and ejective), all
three phonemes seems to be voiceless affricates.

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel J. Milton" <dmilt1896@...>
wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@>

wrote:

> >
> > Spanish tlanguis "public market," also in the form
> > tianguis
> >
> >
> > --- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@>
> > wrote:
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@>
> > >
> > > >
> > > >> tl is not an acceptable cluster.
> > > >
> > > > To whom? It's easy to pronounce, even initially.
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > ===========
> > >
> > > I wrote /tl/ is not a phoneme of Romance
> > > it's not a possible sequence either.
> > >
> > > Do you have a word in Romance with initial #tl , M.
> > > Scott ?
> > >
> > > Arnaud
> ******
> Not sure a word borrowed from Nahuatl counts. And the TI-

spelling

> (and pronunciation?)seems to vastly outnumber TL-.
> From Wikipedia "Tianguis":
> "Tianguis is a Mexican word derived from the Nahua or Aztec
> language, used to describe an open public market. Traditionally, the
> word has been used to describe markets where most of the vendors are
> indigenous Mexican farmers and craftsmen, however the use of the

word

> has expanded to often include flea markets and other venues

frequented

> by itinerant vendors. The word is most often used in areas that were
> traditional strongholds of the Aztec empire.
> Tianguis is one of the few words used in the Spanish language that
> is identical in its singular and plural forms."
>
> Nice word to learn though. Thanks!
> Dan
>