Re: Magyar uveg

From: tolgs001
Message: 58137
Date: 2008-04-27

>You have a strange way of argumenting that sometimes you can make *no*
>statement at all because you don't know what this and that was like,
>and then you make a statement that this or that proto-form should be
>become this or that. This is completely incoherent and inconsistent.

The difference is the simple fact that I feel even in my <hugy> how the
Hungarian phonetics of the last, say, four hundreds years can be or
could've been, whithout having to look up rules in a list.

>As regards your claim that -j- could ever become -gy- it's obviously
wrong.

Yeah sure.

>You have provided one dialectal example, ok, but all other dialects
of >Hungarian do not support that.

Even if some items are not *customary*, if I made j > gy out of some
words I'd choose, no native-speaker Hungarian would protest, because
it'd sound naturally. (But gyüvök, gyüsz, gyün, gyüvünk, gyüsztök,
gyünek is a real, everyday's occurrence, esp. west of the Danube;
I mean the North-South Danube through Budapest. And I don't have
thorough knowledge of that (sub-)dialect.)

George