Re: Deutschland vs. Sakartvelo

>> I have not studied North Caucasic vis a vis proto Germanic. As regards
>> the reasons why LWs were possible, I have made no secret I think
>> Germanic originates in a (eastern) place where LWs from Kartvelian,
>> Early Uralic and Tibetan are possible.
>
> Where was that "eastern place" exactly? Kazakhstan? Proto-Kartvelians
> tribes lived in more or less the same area as their descendants today, so
> there any PK loanwords into PG would be impossible.

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I would locate proto-Germanic in the barycenter of
Proto-URalic, KArtvelian, Yenissei, Tibetan and Tocharian.

I have not stated that LWs from Kartvelian into Proto-Germanic had no
intermediary go-between languages.
This is something you added.
Arnaud
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>>> Second, you should provide more than one example of *believable*
>>> loanwords from Proto-Kartvelian into Common Germanic.
>
>> I have suggested :
>> Neolithic words.
>
> You can't be serious! This list is hilarious. Is this your scientific
> method or simply laziness? One way or another, my appraisal is:
> *doubleplusungood*.
>
> Let me show you why:
>
>> zoGwa >> zGar "sea" > sajwa
>
> Proto-Kartvelian >> Mod. Georgian [+wrong word] > Proto-Germanic -- the
> only example worth mentioning

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Ok
How do you account for it ?
Arnaud
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>> zGarbi "hedgehog" >> Igel
>
> Mod. Georgian >> Mod. German -- zGap'ruli!

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You have created that confusion about zGapruli.
I mentioned zaG "arrow" as a possible etymology of zGarbi "hedgehog"
Arnaud
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>> saxli "house" >> sal
>
> Mod. Georgian >> unknown language -- did you mean German _Saal_??
> Besides, Proto-Kartvelian probably didn't have the initial _s_.

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You have not provide *anything* to substantiate your last sentence
which is just blowing in the wing.
not to mention that "probably" looks ugly as a refutation.
Arnaud
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>> daq >> tkha "goat" > Ziege
>
> Proto-Kartvelian >> Mod. Georgian > Mod. German -- PIE *_digh-_ > PG
> *_tig-o:-_ > OHG _ziga_ > MHG > _zige_ > ModG _Ziege_ (Gerhard Köbler,
> "Germanisches Wörterbuch", 2007)
>
> By the way, the ToB's PK reconstruction (*_daq-_ ~ _dqa-_) is obviously
> wrong. Here's my three-minute proper reconstruction:

> root *_doXa_ 'a neolithic animal with two horns and goatee'
>
> PK *_doXa_ > _dXa_ > _tXa_ > Georgian, Mingrelian, Laz _txa_
> PK *_doXa_ > _doX_ > _daX_ > Svan _daq_
>
> This PK root is obviously related to PIE _dhugH2-tér_ 'goat-er'.

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Obviously related....
LOL
Bar-counter etymology.
Stop Zubrowska.
Arnaud
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>> Dart is zaG (maybe in North Caucasic)
>
> I failed to find _zaG_ in Georgian and failed to find it in the ToB
> North Caucasian database. What language is it from?
>

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Are you really a specialist of KArtvelian and Caucasic ?

Arnaud
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>>> You ignored my question ("What happened to the initial..."),
>
>> Z is treated either as s or H2
>
> I don't get it. PG speakers could pick their choices??

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Look at French LWs in English.

Arnaud

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