Re: Magyar uveg <-> Romanian uiag&

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 58018
Date: 2008-04-25

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tolgs001" <george_st@...> wrote:
>
> >I. Rosetti ILR : Elemente Maghiare in Limba Romana
> >
> >"e accentuat a ramas neatins: magh. mester > dr. mes,ter"
>
> [Pay attention: in Hungarian the /e/ in the second syllable
> is *UN*stressed. The stress falls on the first vowel, on
> the /ü/. So, this statement does not fit our example
> üveg - (u)iagä.]


It's me that I told you this. Now you come back and tell me what I
told you?


In addition:
You said 'jos palaria' to Alex, when he suspected an accented e

For the sake of the argumentation:
I show you that in Hungarian loans in Romanian even an accented e
remain unchanged, not to talk about an unccented one....

Hope this clarify.




II.
> What Rosetti didn't mention and you ought to realize because you
live
> in Ardeal: the pronunciation in Hungarian is /'maeS-taer/, and that
in
> Transylvanian Romanian /'maeS-ter/, whereas /'me$-ter/ (i.e.
fitting 100%
> the writing me$ter) only in outside Romanian subdialects.


1. I don't live currently in Ardeal. I'm in Bucharest from 20 years
My parents are there. So I can have 'at least' an impression
about Romanian subdialects.

2. Next, there is no /'maeS-ter/ pronunciation in Transylvannia ...

3. Finally, To suspect that Rosetti was 'not well informed' about
Romanian dialectology ===> is for me (at least, that I read and re-
read him several times) a blasphemy.

Somebody can disagree with Rosetti of course, but not at such a
basic level...because will be his issue in this case.

Marius