Re: Magyar uveg

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Przemys³aw Ziobrowski <pmva@>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > alexandru_mg3 ta nugatu-r:
> >
> > > Osset. avg "glass" - Hung. üveg "glass";
> > >
> > > Seems that the correspondances are indicated by Abaev in the
> Ossetic
> > > Etymological Dictionary.
> >
> > You forgot to mention that Abaev gives *two* Hungarian forms:
> _üveg_ and
> > _éveg_. The latter is used, AFAIK, by Székely Hungarians
> (Transylvania).
> >
> > I don't see any problems with deriving _éveg_ [e:vEg_0] (?) from
> something
> > like *_a:b(a)g_ ~ *_a:ß(a)g_ << Iranian *_a:paka_. Cf. Ossetic
> _marg_
> > 'poison' : Hungarian _méreg_ 'ts.', both ultimately from Iranian
> > _mar(a)ka_ 'death'.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Przemys³aw Ziobrowski
> >
>
> 1. Thanks for this information.
>
> 2. I quoted Abaev from a quotation : I don't have his etymological
> dictionary. Usually I quote completely what I have.
>
> 3. Could you determine the original form : it was _éveg_ or _üveg_?
>
> What is the first attestation of each of these forms in
> Hungarian?
>
> 4. if _éveg_ is the original form: Is regular that an é passed to

ü

> in Hungarian? At least I'm not aware about this.
>
> Marius

Another request, if you have Abaev.

Could you quote all other Hungarian (and Ossetic) forms (if any)
quoted by Abaev for the list of the words that I published here ?

Are you aware of any other words showing this regional _é_ or _ü_
alternations for Hungarian?

I will check tomorrow this possible regional alternation in
Hungarian _é_ or _ü_ with my Hungarian friends too (hope to obtain
a clear feedback from them).

Thanks again,
Marius