Re: On the ordering of some PIE rules

From: tgpedersen
Message: 57696
Date: 2008-04-20

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "gknysh" <gknysh@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Given a claim that Germanic developed while dominated by Iranian
> > speakers (those that are disgusted with my Odin-Galicia-Thuringia
> > story can think of it instead as King Arthurs Sarmatians arriving
> > for Roman duty in Germania), a good candidate for the choice of
> > Iranian language in which to find features similar of those in
> > Germanic is Ossetian; it is generally considered to be the
> > descendant of Alanic, the speakers of which are on historical
> > record as participating in the Germanic migration, roving from
> > Portugal to China),
>
> ****GK: The Alans remain east of the Don until the mid-first c. CE.
> If "Alani" in Pliny is not a later addition, it would mean that some
> contingents had reached the Danube by 77 CE. They are no longer
> known there (again if the text of Pliny we have is his unedited
> original) in the time of Ptolemy, who localizes them about the Don.
> And indeed that is where they remain (in Europe) until the time of
> the Huns, except for some groups which reach the southern shores of
> the Crimea by the early 3rd c. CE (near Theodosia/Artabda =these may
> have been Zoroastrians), and other groups which form part of the
> Gothic complex in the 4th c. CE. All this seems way too late for
> creative Iranian->Germanic linguistic contacts particularly since
> there is no "domination" involved here except for that of Germanics
> over Iranians. As for "King Arthur and his Sarmatians" in the
> present context the less said the better...*****
>

Wikipedia contradicts you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatians
Haven't you forgotten Strabo?

Those Lubiesewo princely graves remain a problem. Wherever I look it
seems for some reason no one ever considered the possibility that that
militarized upper crust you find in them could be of any other origin
than indigenous. Seems one has to the work oneself.


Torsten