From: george knysh
Message: 57702
Date: 2008-04-20
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "gknysh"\
> <gknysh@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen"
> <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Given a claim that Germanic developed while
> dominated by Iranian
> > > speakers (those that are disgusted with my
> Odin-Galicia-Thuringia
> > > story can think of it instead as King Arthurs
> Sarmatians arriving
> > > for Roman duty in Germania), a good candidate
> for the choice of
> > > Iranian language in which to find features
> similar of those in
> > > Germanic is Ossetian; it is generally considered
> to be the
> > > descendant of Alanic, the speakers of which are
> on historical
> > > record as participating in the Germanic
> migration, roving from
> > > Portugal to China),
> >
> > GK: The Alans remain east of the Don until the
> mid-first c. CE.
> > If "Alani" in Pliny is not a later addition, it
> would mean that some
> > contingents had reached the Danube by 77 CE. They
> are no longer
> > known there (again if the text of Pliny we have is
> his unedited
> > original) in the time of Ptolemy, who localizes
> them about the Don.
> > And indeed that is where they remain (in Europe)
> until the time of
> > the Huns, except for some groups which reach the
> southern shores of
> > the Crimea by the early 3rd c. CE (near
> Theodosia/Artabda =these may
> > have been Zoroastrians), and other groups which
> form part of the
> > Gothic complex in the 4th c. CE. All this seems
> way too late for
> > creative Iranian->Germanic linguistic contacts
> particularly since
> > there is no "domination" involved here except for
> that of Germanics
> > over Iranians. As for "King Arthur and his
> Sarmatians" in the
> > present context the less said the better...
> >****GK: No. You are confusing Sarmats and Alans.****
>
> Wikipedia contradicts you.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatians
> Haven't you forgotten Strabo?****GK: Strabo doesn't know the Alans.****
>****GK: You've tried this before, and somehow it never
> Those Lubiesewo princely graves remain a problem.
> Wherever I look it
> seems for some reason no one ever considered the
> possibility that that
> militarized upper crust you find in them could be of
> any other origin
> than indigenous. Seems one has to the work oneself.
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