Re: Origin of *marko- Margus murg ma'rgas amurg

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 57526
Date: 2008-04-17

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From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Origin of *marko- Margus murg ma'rgas amurg


> alexandru_mg3 pisze:
>
> > IF Greek BECAME Kre:ks in Gothic
> > a loan marG(u)- WOULD-GIVE marK- > Marco-manni, isn't it?
> >
> > (see ALSO the clusters gr/rg <-> kr/rk)
> >
> > Of course I ignore 'exceptionally'
>
> Surely. Of course the Germani could also have borrowed something like
> *margo- before the last stage of Grimm's Law, in which case it would
> have become *marka- in their language (just as Celt. *ri:g- became Gmc.
> *ri:k-). The one little thing you've forgotten again (or never
> understood in the first place despite my attempts to hammer it home) is
> the Germanic 'horse' word, which is *marxa-, not +marka-, ruling out an
> etymological connection between the Marcomanni (not +Marchomanni,
> +Marahomanni or anything similar) and horses. And so round and round we
> go. I had better leave this thread until you understand how Grimm's Law
> worked (that is, probably, forever).
>
> Piotr

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Patrick:

Piotr, I am inclined to the belief that the 'horse' word started out, as
least, as *mo:r-ko-.

Can a long vowel be reconciled with the forms as you see them?


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