Re: Re[2]: [tied] Re: Volcae and Volsci

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 57026
Date: 2008-04-08

--- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:

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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 5:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [tied] Re: Volcae and Volsci
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> >
> > --- "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:
> >
> > > At 2:29:36 PM on Monday, April 7, 2008, Rick
> > > McCallister
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > So there is creolization at work.
> > >
> > > There are evident contact effects.
> Creolization,
> > > however,
> > > is the process that turns a pidgin into a
> creole,
> > > and
> > > Afrikaans has no pidgin in its history back to
> PIE.
> > >
> > > > The question is whether there's enough for you
> to
> > > convince
> > > > Brian.
> > >
> > > No.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > I think the question here is the definition of
> creole
> > or how much contact it takes to create a creole
> > language or if another term, e.g. Mischsprache may
> be
> > more accurate. A creole is a language with more
> than
> > one parent. If Afrikaans is to be considered a
> creole,
> > we need to know who the other parents are besides
> > Dutch. I definitely see French influences but I
> don't
> > know how Khoi-San influenced it.
>
> ***
>
> Tsk! Tsk!
>
> You really do not know?
>
>
> Patrick
>
No, sorry, Afrikaans does not have clicks. . So can
you tell us what grammatical features of Afrikaans
come from Khoi-San besides lexicon?


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