Re: Re[2]: [tied] Re: Volcae and Volsci

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 57020
Date: 2008-04-07

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [tied] Re: Volcae and Volsci


>
> --- "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:
>
> > At 2:29:36 PM on Monday, April 7, 2008, Rick
> > McCallister
> > wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > So there is creolization at work.
> >
> > There are evident contact effects. Creolization,
> > however,
> > is the process that turns a pidgin into a creole,
> > and
> > Afrikaans has no pidgin in its history back to PIE.
> >
> > > The question is whether there's enough for you to
> > convince
> > > Brian.
> >
> > No.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> I think the question here is the definition of creole
> or how much contact it takes to create a creole
> language or if another term, e.g. Mischsprache may be
> more accurate. A creole is a language with more than
> one parent. If Afrikaans is to be considered a creole,
> we need to know who the other parents are besides
> Dutch. I definitely see French influences but I don't
> know how Khoi-San influenced it.

***

Tsk! Tsk!

You really do not know?


Patrick