Re[2]: [tied] Gemination in Celtic

At 6:27:27 PM on Tuesday, April 1, 2008, tgpedersen wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott"
> <BMScott@...> wrote:

>> At 2:15:55 PM on Tuesday, April 1, 2008, tgpedersen
>> wrote:

>> [...]

>>> Is Tutta a Germanic name?

>> It's attested in Sawyer 291, a charter of 'Adeluulf Rex
>> australium populorum' from 842 CE: one of the witnesses is
>> <Tutta minister>. (The other names may be seen below, in
>> case you're interested in the company that it was keeping.)

> It is kind of interesting. They all seem to be standard
> two-element Germanic names, except for the supposedly
> hypochoristic Tutta, plus the Muhtsar you mention, and
> Hudda and Lulluc. None of them have rank above minister,

Latin <minister> was equivalent to OE <þegn>; their status
is indeterminate. And simplex names are by no means
uncommon amongst A-S royalty: 'accepta in conjugem
Aedilbergae filia Aedilbercti regis, quae alio nomina Tatae
vocabatur' (OE <Ta:te>) in Bede; <Saba> ~ <Sæba> from
<Sæ:berht>, king of Essex; 'ic Sibbi kyning' in 656 ASC(E);
<Offa>, of course; 'Her Ine feng to Wesseaxna rice' in 688
ASC(A); 'Her Ida feng to rice' in 547 ASC(A); 'Her Anna
cining werð ofslagen' in 653 ASC(E); and more, not to
mention a fair number of bishops. <Lulluc> is a diminutive
of <Lull> or <Lulla>, and S1431b (803 CE) was witnessed by a
<Lull abbas>, a <Lulla abbas>, and a <Lulla prebyter> [sic],
as well as a <Lullingc presbyter>.

> threee of four have names with geminates,

I suspect that the <Huda minister> who, along with <Lulluc
minister>, witnessed S293 is the same person as the <Hudda>
of S291.

> and of them one has the NWBlock suffix -k (cf. paddock,
> mattuc etc). It corresponds pretty closely to what Kuhn
> described elsewhere.

Brian