From: tgpedersen
Message: 56279
Date: 2008-03-30
>No one claimed the pre-Saami substrate was IE.
>
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> From: tgpedersen
>
> Aikio: 'An essay on substrate studies and the origins of Saami' has
> 'loahkka' "torsk", ie "codfish" as a non-etymologizable substrate
> word (among many other animal, including fish, names) of North
> Saami. My knowledge of Finnish-Saami historical linguistics is
> non-existent, but he does supply a similar substrate word in Saami
> 'gouvssat' "Lapland jay", in Finn. dial. 'kuusanka', whether that is
> loaned directly from that substrate or from North Saami.
>
> Dansk Etymologisk Ordbog:
> lange "the codfish species Molva Vulgaris" [ ie. "ling"
> http://ca.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_762509212/ling.html ]
> ODa., No. id. Sw. långa, ON langa, side form Germ. Länge, Du. leng,
> ling (whence Fr. lingue), Engl. ling, der. from 'lang' ["long"]
>
>
> BTW This is also an answer to Arnaud to his question of gemination
> applying also to (seeming) loans into Saami-Finnish.
>
> Torsten
>
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>
> oa in north Saami LW points toward PIE *uH
> and -kk- points toward ?-kIn your reconstruction of PIE, but nothing points to this substrate
> Hence we can assume a para-celtic word *lu?-k-eH2Don't say 'we' to me.
> I suggest Pok 692 lou "to wash" as root.You'd have to prove first that the pre-Saami substrate was IE.
>
> After you salted them, you have to wash the salt
> before you eat them.