Re: Volcae and Volsci

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 56150
Date: 2008-03-28

----- Original Message -----
From: tgpedersen
>
These complexes have more alternations than just
geminate/non-geminate.
Therefore we need another language.
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Then we will have to check that together
one item after another
until I think this is necessary.
I suppose you are always ready for that
and have plenty of references
Arnaud
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> And we don't need ?a bird language either
> because this is a general PIE feature
> that also exists in Greek.

What is?

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Words starting with ?a- or ?-i mobile
are PIE.
a-lauda is singer : good old PIE.
Cf. German Lied.
Arnaud
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>
> > Your repeated statements that it's not even PIE are unsupported.
>
> Because?
>
> Because it is Celtic and Celtic is western PIE.

That's no answer. That's a repetition of your unsupported claim.

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Matthew 7.3
Arnaud
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>
> Because it explains the long vowels + unvoiced
> alternating with short vowels plus voiced.

It does not explain the nasal.

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Cf. Latin rumpo rupi
frango fregi

Why should -n- infix be a proof
a word is not PIE ?

Arnaud
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A root that alternates -pp-/-mp/-p-/-kk-/-nk-/-k- is obviously not IE.

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It's most probably Celtic.
Arnaud

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> We are dealing with the root which surfaces
> in Germanic as *(s)-dhu?p or *(s)-dhupp-
> with extra -n- in some cases.

Surfaces? What does that mean?

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has lexicals reflexes.

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> > *kat-
> > Germanic *hanti is a LW from Uralic *kom-t-(i)
>
> It might be.
>
> I was a bit desperate that
> you may write some sensical.
> Good news.
> Arnaud
>
> > There is no geminate at all here.
>
> No geminate where?
>
> In *hanti < *kom-t-(i)
> Arnaud
>
Semantically "side, flank" > "cover, protection", Celtic *kassi-,
related to Chatti.

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Hand is the same as Cover, protection ??

Arnaud
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> A third fancy is to imagine that inherited words
> in Uralic like kom-t-i are sea-born LW from Semitic.

I might have to split it in two.

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Please do.
And throw away the other half.

Arnaud
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