Re: Kossack's Conclusions

At 4:46:45 PM on Thursday, March 20, 2008, tgpedersen wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott"
> <BMScott@...> wrote:

>> At 11:32:13 AM on Thursday, March 20, 2008, tgpedersen
>> wrote:

>> [...]

>>> Other possible cognates:

>>> Germanic *xanso:- "community of people" (in whichever
>>> sense)
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/24979
>>> BTW Finnish kansa "people" is cognate to the Estonian
>>> suffix -ga of the recent comitative ("with") case, cf.
>>> ON hos prep. "at, chez".

>> What ON <hos>? The O(W)N preposition is <hjá>, from *hi:wa-
>> 'household, family', PIE *k^ei-wo-; OSw has <ho:s>. If I
>> understand him correctly, Noreen derives it from *xanso:,
>> presumably with u-umlaut from the dative/locative, something
>> like *xansu > *hOns > ho:s,

> U-umlaut would give /ø/, eg ørn "eagle", øl "beer", so no.

According to Noreen there's a complicated interaction of
u-umlaut and loss of nasal.

§ 73. /O:/ wird zu (geschlossenem) /o:/ in folgenden
stellungen:

1. ...
2. Wo es -- durch den einfluss eines einst oder noch
vorhandenen, nachfolgenden oder vorhergehenden nasal (s.
An. gr. I § 50) -- nasaliert ist, z. b. /o:l/ (aus *ãhlu <
*anhlo:, gr. <agkule:> riemen, ..., /ho:s/ bei (got.
<hansa> gesellschaft, finn. lehnw. <kansa> bei, mit), ...

My sequence should probably have been

*xanso: > *hãsu > *hÕs > ho:s,

from the nominative.

Brian