On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:21:18 +0100, "fournet.arnaud"
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fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:
>Having no particular dogma to sell,
>I try to look at data in order to understand
>what we can get from it.
>
>Chinese Mandarin san1 "three"
>and Tibetan gsum have a clear relationship
>with Uralic Hungarian ha:rom.
Of course those stupid Uralicists derive the Hungarian form
from PFU *kolmi (Finn. kolme, Saami gol'bmâ, Mordvin kolmo,
Mari këm ~ kuum, Udmurt kwin'(m-), Komi kujim; Mansi kuurem,
Xanty käälem, Hung három).
>and Basque hiru with loss of -m
The Basque form is hirur, as shown by the dialects that
preserve the final flap -r. There is no room for *m there.
Speculatively, the Basque form can derive from any of the
following pre-stages: {ptk0}i{ltd}u{td}. If we unite t/d as
T, that gives the following possibilities:
piluT piTuT
tiluT tiTuT
kiluT kiTuT
iluT iTuT
It is obviously tempting to choose *tilud, which would
connect the Basque form with PSem. *t_ala:t_ (c^ala:c^),
PBerber *s^rad. ~ *k.rad. and PIE *trej-/tr.ti- (<
**tiláti).
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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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