Re: Grimm shift as starting point of "Germanic"

> Looking at the Latin wanderword katina "kettle"
> widespread in Slavic and Germanic
> and which managed to reach even Mordvin !!
> as kädgä < katika.
> It's quite clear that the typical Germanic
> Lautverschiebung was completely finished
> when proto-Germanic or Germanic languages
> got in contact with the
> Roman empire.
>
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No. When Germanic languages came in contact with that word. It might
substratal in Germanic. And cf.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/29016
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/27873

Torsten

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Supposing this is a substratal word in Germanic,
this Latin word reached the right riverside of the Volga,

So where were proto-Germanic speakers
when this word spread from Italy to Central and Eastern Europe ?

Arnaud
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