Re: PIE meaning of the Germanic dental preterit

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 54563
Date: 2008-03-03

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Sergejus Tarasovas"
> <S.Tarasovas@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Of course, if the form allows only for a causative, how does
that
> > affect the
> > > status of *bhoi- ?
> > >
> > > Could that element be nominal in conjunction with *-dhe:(H)- to
> > produce the
> > > verb for the causative?
> >
> > With recycling, everything is possible. By the way, I wonder
where
> the
> > very type of Lithuanian causatives/iteratives in -dýti comes
from.
> In
> > that specific case of <baidýti> the <d> could well be part of the
> > root, but there are a lot of Lithuanian causatives (<gìmti> 'be
> born'
> > --> <gimdýti> 'give birth to') and iteratives (<mìnti> 'press' ->
> > <mindýti> 'press (iterative)') in -dýti where the <d> is clearly a
> > suffix (cf. the above examples). If this -d- is not from *-dHh1-,
> then
> > what from?
> >
> > Sergei
>
>
>
> Sergei,
>
> <baidýti>
> <gimdýti>
> <mindýti>
>
> are denominal or not?
>
> I think taht they are not denominal.
>
> But you are a native speaker.
>
> Thanks,
> Marius
>

By the way, Fraenkel doesn't say that <baidýti> is denominal.

Marius