Re: Latinus geminus

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel J. Milton" <dmilt1896@...>
wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@>
> wrote:
> >
> > No, Remus is 'colored, dark one'.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@>
> > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:18 PM
> > Subject: Res: [tied] Latinus geminus
> >
> >
> > *yemonos > Latin *ieminus > corrupted > geminus
> > *Yemos > Latin *Iemus > corrupted > Remus
> *****
> I've got lost in this complex thread and can't find what Patrick

is

> saying "No" to, but I'd rather see his evidence for "Remus -colored,
> dark one", not just an ex cathedra pronouncement.
>
> Puhvel (Comparative Mythology, last few pages) says "The
> Proto-Roman names of 'Twin' and 'Man' may have been *Yemos and

*Wiros,

> or with the augmentative suffix *Yemenos and *Wirinos. *Yemenos
> survives in the Old Irish 'emain' and in Latin 'geminus', both

meaning

> 'twin'. The word-initial sequence *yem- has disappeared from the
> Latin phonetic pattern and by some kind of cross-attraction has

been

> replaced by gem- in 'geminus'. The mythical name *Yemos, matching
> Vedic 'Yama-' has been similarly transformed to 'Remus' by
> alliterative association with 'Romulus'."
> I'm inclined to trust Puhvel, or at least take him very

seriously.

> Dan
>

I'm not

Marius