Re: Uralic Continuity Theory (was: Meaning of Aryan: now, "white peo

Wow, Uralic loans into Indo-Iranian. I bet the OIT
meshuga-wallas are dancing in the streets


--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "jouppe"
> <jouppe@...> wrote:

. . .

> > You may have fun looking at the entry 'mato' engl.
> 'moth' at my
> > homepage. This is an excellent etymology by Petri
> Kallio. Enjoy.
> >
>
> I did, at
> http://koti.welho.com/jschalin/lexiconie.htm
> and had fun reading:
> moth
> Fi. mato 'worm' < PreF *mac^a-/*mac^o- >
> Saami muohci,
> muohcu 'moth'
> Sw. mott 'moth' < Early PIr *matsa > Pashto
> ma:šay <
> *ma:sijaka 'moskito'
> Gmc. *muþþo:- <- borrowed from Proto-Saami ~>
> OInd. mas´a-ka,
> mas´a- 'moskito, gadfly'
> Gmc. not cognate to Indo-Iranian or Baltic (cf.
> upper right)
> Lith. ma:ša-la 'gnat, black fly'
>
> with a reference to the Online Etymological
> Dictionary, stating
> "
> moth: O.E. moððe (Northumbrian mohðe), common Gmc.
> (cf. O.N. motti,
> M.Du. motte, Ger. Motte "moth"), perhaps related to
> O.E. maða
> "maggot," or from the root of midge (q.v.). Until
> 16c. used mostly of
> the larva, usually in reference to devouring clothes
> (cf. Matt. vi.20).
>
> Now you will have fun seeing what unspeakable things
> I've done to the
> same etymon:
>

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/37492

>

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/37498

> (on ð > l: Germans often mishear Danish /ð/ as /l/)
> especially
>

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/48943

> and Ernout-Meillet:
> "
> musca, -ae f.: mouche. - Ancien (Pl.), usuel.
> Panroman. M.L.5760.
> Dérivés: musca:rius: qui concerne les mouches;
> subst. musca:rium:
> émouchoir, chasse-mouches (faut d'une queue de paon
> ou de cheval);
> fouillage de certaines plantes; muscula, muscella:
> petite mouche;
> *musco(:) "gobe-mouches", nom d'oiseau attesté dans
> les l. romanes,
> cf. M.L. 5769. Le germ. a des représentants de
> musca,. v. angl.
> músc-fleoge, et de muscio: m.b.all. musche.
> Dérivé d'un thème racine dont on a une série
> d'autres dérivés ayant
> le même sens: lit. muse~ et gr. mui~a, et, avec un
> autre vocalisme
> radical, v. sl. muxa (s. m`ùha, tch. maucha, r. múxa
> à côté de
> mušica "moucheron" et de v.russe myšIca, supposant
> u:, cf. lette muša
> "mouche" - Formes sans s dans v.isl. mý "mouche",
> v.sax. muggia,
> alb. m`ùze, mizi - Arm. mun "mouche" peut reposer
> sur *muno- ou sur
> musno-. Cf. aussi mustio:.
> "
>
> and, with metathesis
>

http://www.ieed.nl/lubotsky/pdf/Indo-Iranian%20substratum.pdf

> "
> *makš- f. `fly, bee':
> Skt. máks.(a:)- `fly, bee';
> LAv. maxši:- f. `fly'.
> [-> FU *mekše `bee', Rédei 45.]
> "
>
>
> That word sure gets around, doesn't it?
>
>
> Torsten
>
>
>
>
>
>

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