Re: Early Indo-European loanwords preserved in Finnish

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 53963
Date: 2008-02-22

That's an incongruous question. You call them by name.
What would you call the non-Celtic, non-Albanian IE
languages?

--- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:

> What would you prefer to use to designate the
> non-Semitic/non-Egyptian
> languages of Afrasian then?
>
>
> Patrick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Early Indo-European loanwords
> preserved in Finnish
>
>
> > Hamitic, besides not being a valid branch. also
> > carries secondary derrogative meanings associated
> with
> > Ham, the "cursed" son of Noah. In that sense, it
> comes
> > across as racist to some.
> > Indo-Germanic sounds quaint --don't only the
> Germans
> > use it?
> >
> > --- Richard Wordingham
> <richard@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick
> McCallister
> > > <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Because it [Semito-Hamitic] creates a false
> > > dichotomy between
> > > > Semitic and non-Semitic, presupposing that all
> > > non-Semitic AA
> > > > languages form one branch. Given what we know
> > > about
> > > > AA, that is misleading at best and comes
> across as
> > > > ignorant
> > >
> > > The problem here I presume is that we now seem
> not
> > > to have a branch
> > > called Hamitic. In the interests of
> Anglo-French
> > > acronymic agreement,
> > > would English 'Chado-Semitic' (CS) be
> acceptable?
> > > Or is
> > > 'Indo-Germanic' to be disparaged as ignorant?
> > >
> > > > --- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > What is supposed to be wrong with
> > > > > Semito-Hamitic
> > > > > or Chamito-sémitique ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally, I think the "symmetrical"
> > > > > Afro-Asiatic from "Indo-European"
> > > > > is not better,
> > > > > The symmetry crumbles when
> > > > > PIE becomes part of CS.
> > >
> > > Should not Semito-Hamitic-Japhethic then be
> > > simplified to Nohic?
> > > (This is not Noahism!) Actually, such a group
> would
> > > then meet my
> > > preferred definition of Nostratic sensu lato -
> the
> > > crown clade of the
> > > original languages of the sacred texts of the
> people
> > > of the book.
> > > (Avestan and Sanskrit can be added to taste -
> they
> > > do not change the
> > > meaning of the term.)
> > >
> > > Richard.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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